portable propane campfire devices work good, but you do have to be conscious of a shifting Flame and stay well back from it. They don't seem as hot, unless you get close,but they give the ambience.mister_coffee wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:23 pm Honestly backpackers made the cultural shift away from campfires in the 70s and 80s and that hasn't substantially diminished the popularity of backpacking. Car camping just needs the exact same cultural shift.
It would definitely clean up the air in government campgrounds as well as reduce fire hazard, maybe with a steel ring to contain the flame better and those fake fireplace brickets to hold some of the radiant Heat.