ICE Agents shoot US Citizen in the street

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All you have to do is look at the videos of the mob that Babbitt was a part of trying to break into the Speakers' wing and as all investigations concluded it was a good shoot. There just isn't any comparison and your insistence that Good used her vehicle as a weapon has been debunked thoroughly. Rather than screaming at ICE agents, instead her last words were, "I'm not made at you dude" then she turned the wheels of her car away from the agent and put the car into drive.

Your arguments fall apart with only the slightest inspection of the facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ashli_Babbitt

"How a 40-second encounter led an ICE agent to shoot and kill a Twin Cities resident
<< The lives of Minneapolis resident Renee Nicole Good and ICE agent Jonathan Ross intersected on Jan. 7 as car horns blared, sirens wailed and whistles shrieked.
It was a brief encounter, just 40 seconds on the slippery streets of south Minneapolis in the first week of the new year. Cell phones recorded it from nearly every angle.
As Good sat in the driver’s seat of her car, her wife was standing nearby. Their dog was in the backseat. Toys for their 6-year-old child were strewn about the car – stuffed animals hanging above the glove box, a dinosaur book and drawing pad on the passenger seat floor.
Ross, who lives in Minnesota and is assigned to the St. Paul field office, was back in action just six months after he was dragged 300 feet by a car as he tried to arrest a Mexican citizen in Bloomington. Images of the encounter show blood covering Ross’ body and clothes. There are dozens of stitches curling down his arm.
As Ross circled Good’s car on Portland Ave., he held his own phone to record what was happening. Good smiled at him. “That’s fine dude,” Good said to Ross, looking up into his face, which was partially obscured by a balaclava. “I’m not mad at you.”
What happened next on that Wednesday morning has once again turned the eyes of the world on Minneapolis. Local politicians have claimed the killing is a direct result of President Donald Trump vindictively targeting the state with immigration enforcement. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem blasted local police for not stopping protesters from “harassing and inciting violence on law enforcement officers.” And in the wake of a shocking killing, there’s been a surge of ICE enforcement in Minnesota.
The Minnesota Star Tribune reconstructed the moments leading up to the shooting and its immediate aftermath through eyewitness interviews and reviewed multiple videos of the encounter and message logs from protesters.
It shows how the split-second decisions by Good to drive forward and Ross to pull out his gun turned deadly and ignited a nationwide debate over use of force by ICE agents that shows no signs of abating.
A neighborhood on alert
The morning began with warnings.
Residents throughout the Twin Cities have been sharing information about potential ICE activity for months as the Trump administration works to increase deportations of undocumented immigrants. The activity is aimed to document and disrupt ICE agents from arresting and detaining immigrants. It’s coordinated largely through chats and phone calls on the private message app, Signal.
Residents and activists have recorded the movements of ICE agents, blown whistles to alert others of the federal presence, filmed license plates and locked arms to block arrests. That civil protest heightened after the Trump administration announced on Jan. 6 that an additional 2,000 federal agents would deploy to the Twin Cities.
A friend of Good’s said she was trained to protest ICE presence in the city. Another friend said Good likely followed activity on Signal.
Ashley Horan, who lives across the street from an elementary school in the Powderhorn Park neighborhood, had been receiving warnings about federal immigration activity since sunrise.
The neighborhood had reason to be on alert. A 2021 study conducted by the University of Minnesota found that it was one of the most diverse neighborhoods in Minneapolis, with a prominent Latino demographic. It’s also the same neighborhood where George Floyd was murdered in 2020.
“Around 7:30 or 8 o’clock, I started getting messages saying there was escalated ICE presence in the neighborhood,” Horan said.
Shortly after 9 a.m., Signal chats lit up with what observers described as an active detention outside Green Central Elementary. It was referred to in early messages as an “active kidnapping,” a term activists often use to describe arrests. The school was three blocks away from where Good would park her car.
Some messages suggested a parent had been taken near the school, though Horan said she does not know whether that detail was accurate. The Star Tribune was not able to verify these claims.
By around 9:30 a.m., whistles were already sounding.
From her home office, positioned between Green Central and Portland Avenue, Horan watched unmarked vehicles move quickly through residential streets.
“I started seeing cars flying by — unmarked vehicles going very fast,” she said.
She left her meeting, got in her car and followed.
Portland Avenue is one of the most heavily trafficked residential streets in south Minneapolis, stretching 12 miles through the Twin Cities from the Minnesota River to the Mississippi River.
Where Ross came upon Good’s parked car, Portland Avenue operates as a one-way street, southbound.
There had already been a consistent ICE presence on the block where Ross and Good’s lives collided, said Alaina Kozma, who lives on Portland Avenue near where the shooting took place. “I have seen caravans of ICE going by,” Kozma said as she watched federal officers process the scene the day of the shooting. “I would estimate, four to five times over the last three weeks.”
Good and her wife lived two blocks away from the scene of the shooting. New video released by the Department of Homeland Security Jan. 10 shows Good’s car positioned perpendicularly across part of Portland Avenue, blocking traffic. It is noisy. Residents are blowing whistles and several car horns are blaring.
In a statement provided to Minnesota Public Radio on Jan. 9, Renee Good’s wife, Becca Good, said, “We stopped to support our neighbors. We had whistles. They had guns.”
Video footage shows Ross park his SUV a few feet from Good’s car and climb out. He records the video as he walks around the vehicle, making sure to film the license plate.
Other activists and residents were on the street, and several recorded the encounter. Good appears amicable in the driver’s seat, extending her arm out of the window and waving other vehicles past her car.
As Ross moves around the vehicle, he doesn’t say much, but Becca Good confronts him.
She tells the officer that he doesn’t need to worry, they won’t change out their license plate for another one, which has been a criticized tactic of ICE agents operating in the Twin Cities. She says she is a U.S. citizen and a veteran and asks Ross if he “wants to come at us.”
Ross stays quiet the entire time. Circling the car and recording.
“I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy,” Becca Good says.
As that is happening, two ICE agents park their truck several feet from Renee Good’s driver’s side door. The agents exit their vehicle and walk toward Good’s car.
Footage captures the agents shouting commands and expletives as they advance.
“Get out of the car. Get out of the car,” one agent can be heard yelling.
An agent pulls on the door handle and then reaches his hand through the window. Good first puts the car in reverse, backs up briefly and then puts the car in drive. Her tires spin slightly on the ice. She turns her wheels and moves forward. Becca Good attempts to open the passenger door, but it’s locked.
You can hear Becca say to Renee, “Drive baby, drive.”
Ross keeps his cellphone in his left hand and pulls out his gun with his right.
Gunfire and chaos
Trevor Heitkamb, 31, who lives on Portland Avenue, was outside his home smoking a cigarette when he heard the gunfire.
“The car was pulling out. The guys were messing with the car,” Heitkamb said of the ICE agents trying to get into Good’s vehicle. “The car pulled forward and they started shooting into it. I saw the crash and I saw the body — the whole thing.”
A Star Tribune analysis of multiple video angles appears to show Ross firing three shots at close range. The first through the front windshield as Ross stood in front of the car.
As Good drives forward, video shows that Ross avoids being seriously hit by the car. He moves backward, but it’s not clear if he steps back or is pushed by the vehicle — or both. Neither video suggests Good “ran him over,” as Trump has said.
The next two shots appear to go through the open driver’s side window as Good’s SUV drives past Ross. After the shots, a voice can be heard saying, “bi**h,” punctuated with an expletive.
The SUV careens wildly down the road before crashing into a parked car.
“Everybody was screaming that they just killed her,” said Lynette Reini-Grandell, a nearby resident who heard the shots as she crossed onto the street. “That they just shot her.”
Ross walked towards Good’s car, turned around, walked back, held his hand up horizontally, rolled his index finger in a circular fashion and was heard saying “Call 911.”
Other ICE agents drew their weapons and forced people back from the vehicle.
Several people at the scene said federal agents prevented a person who identified himself as a doctor from administering CPR to Good. Agents, according to videos from the scene, can be heard telling bystanders they had their own medics.
Venus de Mars, who lives nearby, said she arrived moments later and saw CPR being performed behind a snowbank where Good’s car had come to rest.
“They did CPR on her for about a minute,” de Mars said. “Then the ambulances came and they loaded her onto a stretcher.”
As Signal chats erupted that an observer had been shot — including a message timestamped 9:37 a.m. —people poured onto Portland Avenue, first from nearby homes, then from across the neighborhood.
Within minutes of the shooting, ICE agents leave the scene in the unmarked SUV that Ross arrived in. It isn’t clear if Ross was among them. A bystander yells, “Don’t let him leave.”
The block erupts
As the morning went on, the block grew louder and more volatile.
People blew whistles continuously and shouted at ICE agents, chanting, “You killed my neighbor” and “Murderer.”
ICE agents tackled observers who were in their way. They deployed chemical irritants, sometimes directly into people’s faces. Journalists were also hit.
Neighbors and protesters crouched in the snow, pouring milk and water into one another’s eyes, shouting instructions and trying to help as the scene dissolved into confusion and anger.
Good was transported by ambulance to HCMC, where she was pronounced dead, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara confirmed.
Hours later, blood remained visible in the snow where her vehicle had come to rest.
Transparency and accountability
Within hours of the shooting, President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem were just a few federal officials arguing that the shooting was justified. They also alleged Good had targeted Ross and ran him over in an act of domestic terrorism.
Other city, state and national officials argue that the use of force was unjustified. They say video evidence shows Good trying to leave the scene and not trying to harm anyone.
The dispute will likely continue as state and federal officials conduct separate investigations into a shooting where many have already made conclusions.
While the discussion over procedure and accountability continues, Minneapolis residents are left grappling with an intensifying conflict and violence on their streets.
“My life isn’t going to return to normal anytime soon,” Heitkamb said. “I don’t even know how to process what I saw. I’m going to remember Renee for the rest of my life.”
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Kyeland Jackson and Louis Krauss of the Minnesota Star Tribune contributed to this report."

[dorankj]

A question never answered by the shooter! But you guys hate everyone at J6 and seem to think they all deserved to die, prison for life is a weak back up per your side. But a crazy activist who harasses law enforcement, obstructing justice and literally endangering them with a 4000# weapon? Nope, you think all good because you like her politics. Im defending a unarmed woman who was going with the crowd and obviously by her size not anywhere close to the biggest threat, she gets murdered in cold blood and you guys say: Nope, all good because she has wrong politics and I guess has zero right to protest in 'the people's house'? Boy, it's hard to make sense of you reprobates! Zero consistent standards only political sides and lies and gaslighting to fill out your BS.

[Rideback]

Good comparison Ray, and this morning Krisi Noem didn't have an answer when Jake Tapper asked her that same question.

[pasayten]

And they are doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to and fulfilling our immigration laws (something Dementia Joe refused to). However, if they are being obstructed, harassed threatened and endangered by us citizens the citizens are violating federal law (and supremacy clause trumps state law) and can and WILL be stopped! FAFO

Gee Ken, How come only Ashli Babbitt of the Jan 6 rioters was killed??? Law enforcement had plenty of reason to shoot others. "FAFO" didn't apply there??? Or did law enforcement use care and restraint to not shoot more American citizens??

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"Former law enforcement officer, Kramer Hammy:
"It is clear that US citizens' ignorance of federal laws and law enforcement duties, procedures, and limits of authority is getting to the point where it is deadly. I spent probably 3 hours watching and re-watching, and finding every single video and angle I could of the situation in Minnesota yesterday and came to one immovable conclusion based off of what I saw and what I know from a professional standpoint. This is long, but please give it a read.
"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
"This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.
"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.
"You can see the wheels are turned, [Renee] backed up and turned them to the right, moved forward a bit to leave, couldn't because an agent was standing in front of her, and continued to try to leave by TURNING HER WHEELS TO THE RIGHT and moving forward. He continually chose to stand there and not allow her to legally leave as she had every single right to do.
The officer pulling on her door and banging on her window and swearing at her had ZERO authority to order her out of her vehicle or attempt to make entry into her vehicle. NONE. A single day of actual training of the legal scope of authority and the LAW would've prevented that from happening.
"You now have a frightened citizen being blockaded by immigration agents (with another person in her vehicle) who had zero obligation to follow legally invalid orders from that agent, being blocked in and having a fully grown, masked man attempting to make entry into her car. If this were reversed, every single person would immediately feel she had every reasonable expectation to fear for her safety. It doesn't matter if she knew it was ICE because the agents weren't even acting in their scope of authority anyway.
"Whether or not she made the right decision by very CLEARLY- based off of how hard her wheels were turned and how low and to the driver corner windshield that shot was fired- trying to drive to the left of that agent is IRRELEVANT in the picture as a whole.
None of this would have happened if those agents had done even one single thing correctly. Not just correctly, but within their legal scope of authority. Every single moment of that interaction was escalated by untrained, unprofessional, procedurally inept "agents" who not only had zero control of themselves but everything around them. And not because they are helpless, but because their actions that did not fall under their scope of power CAUSED this. Their tempers, lack of training, and the knowledge that they can get away with violating their own scope of authority caused this.
"I will always be the first to defend law enforcement when lethal force very clearly is required. But this was not even remotely the case, and as an actual TRAINED professional in that field with experience and understanding of both the law and procedures, there is no justification for this- and it would benefit EVERYONE to actually read up on the laws, scope of authority, and use a single shred of common sense to see that this situation was started, escalated, and caused by the ICE agents involved. I have zero respect for those in power who are ignorant of the scope of their authority and abuse it at the cost of lives around them."

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https://scontent-sea5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=6969B23A

6-7 your arguments are irrelevant nonsense Ken
Answer the questions in the link

[dorankj]

You guys really are insane! Even when there's zero racism (we can barely imagine the outrage/protests if it was (2020+)) you shoehorn a completely unrelated racist murder where the victim WAS innocent (not so here!) What a attempt to gaslight lies. BTW you look such a fool trying (and failing) to use 6-7!

[PAL]

Ross is now in hiding. Special task force moved belongings from his house, along with his wife, to an undisclosed location for his safety.
Jack Reacher type can find him.

[just-jim]

Talk about head up your arse! Biden removed more than he let in? Haha bull***, mor*n.

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How about a source for your baseless claims.

I went back through a year of your posts. Not single citation or source…..just baseless blah, blah, blah, blah…..

Put up or shut up.
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HCR:

"Heather Cox Richardson on the release of the video taken by Renee Good’s killer Jonathan Ross. This is so spot on:
“The release of this damning video as an attempted exoneration reminds me overwhelmingly of the release of the video of the murder of Black jogger Ahmaud Arbery in February 2021 in an attempt of one of the murderers to prove they had acted in self-defense.
In that case, the district attorney for that circuit told police that the video showed self-defense and declined to prosecute. When the story wouldn’t go away, one of the murderers apparently thought that everyone else would agree that the video exonerated the killers. His lawyer gave the video to a local radio station. The station took the video down within two hours, but the public outcry over the horrific video meant the killers were arrested two days later. A jury convicted them, and they are now in prison, two for life without possibility of parole, one for life with the possibility of parole after 30 years, when he will be about 82.
In the case of the murder of Ahmaud Arbery, the murderers and their protectors were clearly so isolated in their own racist bubble they could not see how regular Americans would react to the video of them hunting down and shooting a jogger.
In the case of the murder of Renee Good, the shooter and his protectors are clearly so isolated in their own authoritarian bubble they cannot see how regular Americans would react to the video of a woman smiling at a masked agent and saying: ‘That’s fine, dude. I’m not mad at you,’ only to have him shoot her in the face and then spit out ‘F*cking bi**h’ after he killed her.
The thread that runs through both is the assumption that an American exercising their constitutional rights must submit, without question, to a white man holding a gun.”

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6-7 Ken
Your lack of attention span is showing

[dorankj]

Talk about head up your arse! Biden removed more than he let in? Haha bull***, mor*n.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Icl0PsY30

As she was starting to back up Ross was pulling his gun out. Watch the video.

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"In 2013, the federal government commissioned an independent review of its own border agents. The Police Executive Research Forum examined 67 use-of-force incidents that resulted in 19 deaths. What they found was that agents were deliberately stepping in front of moving vehicles to manufacture justification for shooting the drivers.
TLDR:
Federal law enforcement officers were intentionally creating the conditions that would allow them to kill people.
The PERF report didn’t mince words. It noted agents “intentionally put themselves into the exit path of the vehicle, thereby exposing themselves to additional risk and creating justification for the use of deadly force.”
In plain English: they’d stand where the car was going, then claim self-defense when they pulled the trigger.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection tried to bury it. When Congress asked for the report, they got a summary with the vehicle-positioning findings conveniently omitted. It took a leak to the Los Angeles Times and an ACLU lawsuit to pry the full document loose. By May 2014, under enormous pressure, CBP finally released it publicly.
The agency also issued new guidelines. Agents should not use their body to block a vehicle’s path. They should not shoot at fleeing vehicles unless occupants pose an imminent lethal threat other than the vehicle itself. The policy was explicit: move out of the fu**ing way.
The Department of Homeland Security has had an official use-of-force policy on the books since 2018. Policy Statement 044-05, signed by the Acting Deputy Secretary, establishes department-wide standards.
It requires force to be “objectively reasonable based on the facts and circumstances.” It cites the Supreme Court cases that set the legal standard. It looks professional and thorough on paper.
But I guess paper doesn’t change institutional culture. Training manuals don’t override what agents learned on the job a decade ago. And the people who were active agents during the period when stepping-in-front-of-vehicles was standard practice didn’t just disappear. They got promoted. They became instructors. They trained the next generation.
How long has Jonathan Ross - the ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good - been working for Border Patrol and ICE?
Since 2007.
Oh. And the Department of Justice policy is even clearer.
Firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless no other objectively reasonable means of defense exists - “which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.” That’s the actual language.
Moving out of the way is supposed to be the first option, not the last.
So when a federal agent positions himself in front of a car, pulls out his phone to record with one hand, draws his weapon with the other, and then fires - the question isn’t just whether he feared for his life. The question is why he was standing there in the first place.
Former ICE officials have been refreshingly honest in background quotes to reporters this week. “Why did you put yourself in front of the car? You’re staging the scene.” “At a certain point, you need to understand not to put yourself in these positions.” One veteran agent told CBS News he’d been conducting stops for 25 years and never, ever wanted to be intentionally in front of the vehicle.
Because that’s not tactics. That’s manufacturing a pretext.
The PERF report was supposed to fix this. The policy updates were supposed to change behavior. But here we are, twelve years later, watching video that looks exactly like what the independent reviewers described: an agent positioning himself to create the justification, then using it.
The agency’s own policy says force must be objectively reasonable. The DOJ policy says moving out of the way should be the first option. The 2014 guidelines explicitly told agents not to block vehicles with their bodies.
None of that matters if the people enforcing the policy are the same people who learned the old playbook.
The infrastructure for accountability doesn’t work when the FBI takes sole control of investigations and excludes state authorities. It doesn’t work when federal immunity shields agents from local prosecution. It doesn’t work when the same agency investigates itself.
What we’re watching isn’t a rogue agent or a tragic split-second decision. What we’re watching is a system designed to produce exactly this outcome - and documented evidence that the government knew about the problem over a decade ago.
They commissioned a report. They buried the report. They got caught. They changed the policy on paper. And twelve years later, the playbook is still running.
So, stop posting about laws that you don’t understand in my comments - you clueless walking Dunning-Kruger exhibits.
Here are all of the likely laws Jonathan Ross broke:
Most likely chargeable offenses:
1. Third-Degree Murder (Minn. Stat. § 609.195)
2. Second-Degree Manslaughter (Minn. Stat. § 609.205)
3. Failure to Render Aid to Shooting Victim (Minn. Stat. § 609.662)
4. Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law (18 U.S.C. § 242)
Additional potential charges depending on investigation:
5. First-Degree Manslaughter (Minn. Stat. § 609.20)
6. Evidence tampering (leaving scene with weapon)
7. Obstruction charges if coordination to block investigation is proven
Cut and paste from @Rachel Hurley with information from Mr Global."

[mister_coffee]

Sad fact of the matter is that there are a lot of people who call themselves Americans who think it is okay for law enforcement to shoot people for any reason as long as they are shooting people they don't like.

[just-jim]

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As Usual….Dorko has his head firmly - and completely - planted far up his own butthole.
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DHS data here:
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Hey kenny - pro-tip, here: when you are going to make outrageous claims on the interwebs….you might do some reading first!?! (Oh, wait….I forgot about you and reading…..)
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[dorankj]

IT DID HAPPEN TO ASHLEY BABBIT! I've said so over and over and nothing has happened to that very illegal police officer, you guys tried to 'celebrate' him. Such clueless hypocrites!

[dorankj]

NOBODY has 'absolute immunity' and I said no such thing. The supremacy clause is real and you align yourself with the civil war confederacy if you ignore or obfuscate that fact, but hey maybe that's close to the mark for you reprobates!

[mister_coffee]

Those who think this murder was somehow justified should ask themselves how what would have happened to the January 6th goons if the Capitol Police were held to the same standards as ICE?

I'd imagine in that case they would have been stacking bodies like lumber.

[Rideback]

Not so fast Ken
https://www.courthousenews.com/minnesot ... stigation/

"Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty released a statement saying that their office will begin exploring all options to ensure a state level investigation will continue, and later added that, contrary to Vice President JD Vance’s statement, the ICE officer who shot Good does not have “absolute immunity” from charges.

Mauleón clarified that while federal agents enjoy supremacy clause immunity for actions deemed “necessary and proper” to their duties, that is a legal defense to be argued in court — not a shield that prevents a state from bringing charges.

“There is no legal precedent for this ICE officer to have absolute immunity,” Mauleón said, pointing to the Ruby Ridge case in Idaho as an example where state officials successfully brought criminal charges against federal snipers."

And yesterday: "At a press conference in Philadelphia on Thursday, officials spoke out loud and clear about the killing of Renee Nicole Good. Sheriff Rochelle Bilal slammed ICE, calling them “made up, fake, wannabe law enforcement” and “Trump’s new army.” Bilal also told federal agents if they commit crimes, they will get arrested on the spot, adding: “You don’t want this smoke.”
And Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner issued a clear warning: “If any law enforcement agent, any ICE agent is gonna come to Philly to commit crimes, then you can get the F out of here. I will charge you with those crimes. You will be arrested. You will stand trial. You will be convicted. Donald Trump cannot pardon you for a state court conviction. Do you hear me, ICE agents?”

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And for the legal context:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/147687764 ... dium=email

[dorankj]

And they are doing EXACTLY what they are supposed to and fulfilling our immigration laws (something Dementia Joe refused to). However, if they are being obstructed, harassed threatened and endangered by us citizens the citizens are violating federal law (and supremacy clause trumps state law) and can and WILL be stopped! FAFO

[PAL]

They are doing the exact opposite of what you posted Ray. Noem has no oversight nor does she care to.

[pasayten]

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[mister_coffee]

I see a large federal civil rights lawsuit incoming. And the shooter will also eventually face state charges in Minnesota.

Based on the earlier incident in Chicago where a woman in her car (a US Citizen) was shot five times I suspect that the shooter's emails and text message traffic will be introduced into evidence and will be damning.