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Kinda thinking the people of Greenland value their independence from Trump's US
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"76 years ago, we founded NATO together to stop exactly this kind of thing -- powerful countries seizing territory from smaller ones because they felt like it. Now our president threatens you with "the easy way or the hard way" while a Republican senator has to stand on the Senate floor and say "I'm sick of stupid."
To our friends in Denmark and Greenland, the American people haven't lost our minds. Just "Putin's poodle" -- as the European press calls him -- at its helm.
Today, we heard your voices. Across Denmark and Greenland, thousands filled the streets in what one protester called "an unseen level of resentment towards the U.S." In Copenhagen, over 15,000 people marched from City Hall to the U.S. Embassy, waving Danish and Greenlandic flags, wearing red "Make America Go Away" caps, and chanting "Kalaallit Nunaat" -- Greenland's name in its own language. In Nuuk, roughly 5,000 turned out -- nearly 10% of the island's entire population -- holding signs reading "Yankee go home" and "Greenland is not for sale."
The message was unified and unmistakable: we are not for sale, we will not be taken, and we will decide our own future.
For weeks, Trump has been escalating his rhetoric about seizing Greenland, going so far as to openly threaten military action against our NATO allies. Today, he continued his role as bully-in-chief, slapping 10% tariffs on eight of America's closest allies until Denmark agrees to sell Greenland. The tariffs jump to 25% in June. The move provoked immediate fury. French President Emmanuel Macron declared that "no intimidation nor threat will influence us." Sweden's prime minister said flatly: "We will not let ourselves be blackmailed."
Trump's obsession with Greenland has even driven Republicans -- who have spent much of the year in silent lockstep with the president -- to finally speak out. Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) wrote on social media that the tariffs were "bad for America, bad for American businesses, and bad for America's allies. It's great for Putin, Xi and other adversaries who want to see NATO divided." He called the push to seize an ally's territory "beyond stupid."
Representative Don Bacon (R-NE) went further, calling it "utter buffoonery" and likening it to something Russia would do. "You don't treat allies that way," Bacon said. "You do that with Russia or China, Iran -- but don't treat your best friends like a piece of [excrement]." Bacon warned that if Trump actually invaded Greenland, "it would be the end of his presidency. Most Republicans know this is immoral and wrong. I will stand up against it."
Former Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell warned from the Senate floor that seizing Greenland would "incinerate" the NATO alliance and called it "an unprecedented act of strategic self-harm."
So what's behind this? With 86% of Americans opposing military action against Greenland according to a new poll released this week, Congress broadly opposed, our closest allies outraged, and the entire enterprise threatening to shatter Western security cooperation -- why is Trump so obsessed?
The Trump administration's stated reason is "national security." But as Tillis pointed out, that argument collapses under scrutiny. "At one point we had 17 military installations in Greenland and they'd be happy to have us back," he said from the Senate floor. "They're not refusing to have us have access to project power into the Arctic. We can do it without taking over a NATO country." You don't have to own territory to have bases there -- we don't own South Korea, Japan, or Germany, but we have massive military presences in all of them. The logic is, as Tillis put it, "silly on stilts."
So what's really driving this? With Trump, it's often impossible to untangle the delusions of grandeur -- a desire to go down in history as some sort of imperialist conqueror -- from the opportunities for grift. But we do know this: according to former National Security Advisor John Bolton, the man who first put the idea of "buying Greenland" into Trump's head was his longtime friend, billionaire Ronald Lauder, the heir to the Estée Lauder cosmetics fortune. And as Trump has ramped up his threats, Lauder has quietly been acquiring commercial holdings in Greenland, including stakes in companies pursuing water exports and mineral extraction.
Like so much of Trump's behavior, logic, coherency, and ethical considerations play no discernible role. What we're left with is a president threatening to blow up a 75-year alliance for reasons that benefit his billionaire friends, destabilize Western security, and -- as multiple critics have noted -- hand a massive win to Vladimir Putin.
Fundamentally, it's up to Americans and our representatives in Congress to restrain Trump's erratic impulses, to stand up for the sovereignty of our allies, and to recognize that mutual respect matters.
For a year, Trump and his advisors have tried to pull the U.S. out of the global community -- withdrawing from international agreements and 66 global institutions, slashing 86% of foreign aid that long served as an inexpensive way to build global soft power, creating a void that China and Russia have rushed to fill.
We're weaker for it, and less respected as a nation than at any point in modern history.
Trump's impulsivity, his delusions of grandeur, his malignant narcissism -- it's been poisoning our own politics for over a decade. Now it's poisoning our relationships with the countries that have stood by us through two World Wars, the Cold War, and the War on Terror.
This week, Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen and Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt traveled to Washington for talks at the White House with JD Vance. Ever Trump's toady, Vance has been harshly critical of Denmark, accusing Copenhagen of "neglect and inaction" and declaring: "You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland." He dismissed European criticism as "bellyaching" and, ironically, characterized Danish pushback as "bullying" -- this from an administration threatening military force against an ally.
Vance's comments elicited outrage across Europe. Denmark's Foreign Minister responded: "We do not appreciate the tone in which this is being delivered. This is not how you speak to close allies." Former Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt called it "a little bit insulting, to be honest, that we have stood side by side with America for decades."
After their meeting this week, Motzfeldt admitted that "the last days have been tough. Our preparations and the increasing pressure that has been intense. But I want to say, we are strong in the government. The work is to ensure the Greenlandic people in our country can feel safe and live securely. We are using all our strength to achieve this as we continue the work."
Becoming visibly emotional, she continued: "We have been working very hard in our department, even though there are not many of us," her voice breaking. "I would not normally like to say these words, but I will say them: We are very strong. We are doing our utmost. But the last days, naturally... I am getting very emotional. I am overwhelmed." She added that the pressure from the United States had "only gotten stronger."
To Vivian Motzfeldt, to the people of Greenland, to our Danish friends: You should not have to be strong against us.
For 76 years, you have been our partners, our allies, our friends. You fought beside us. You trusted us. And now you are being bullied by the very country that was supposed to have your back. We are sorry.
The American people see what is happening, and overwhelmingly reject it. Trump does not speak for us. He never did. We stand with you.
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To Americans: Now is the time to call on your elected officials to block Trump's imperialistic folly and defend our alliances -- there is an action alert on 5 Calls at https://5calls.org/issue/trump-greenlan ... -invasion/
For powerful books for tweens and teens about girls living in real-life oppressive societies throughout history where leaders didn't respect the rule of law, visit our blog post "The Fragility of Freedom: Mighty Girl Books About Life Under Authoritarianism" at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=32426
To introduce kids to inspiring female leaders from around the world, we recommend the picture book "Shaking Things Up: 14 Young Women Who Changed the World" (https://www.amightygirl.com/shaking-things-up) and the illustrated biography "HerStory: 50 Women and Girls Who Shook the World" for ages 8 to 13 (https://www.amightygirl.com/herstory)
For children's books about more extraordinary women from around the world, visit our blog post "50 Children's Books About Mighty Girls & Women Around The World" at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=33102
To inspire children and teens with the true stories of girls and women who dared to fight for change throughout history, check out our blog post, "Dissent Is Patriotic: 50 Books About Women Who Fought for Change," at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=14364
To read more about Trump's actions against Denmark and Greenland, visit https://www.nytimes.com/.../trump-eu-tariffs-greenland...
To read more about how Ronald Lauder encouraged Trump's imperial ambitions, visit
"76 years ago, we founded NATO together to stop exactly this kind of thing -- powerful countries seizing territory from smaller ones because they felt like it. Now our president threatens you with "the easy way or the hard way" while a Republican senator has to stand on the Senate floor and say "I'm sick of stupid."
To our friends in Denmark and Greenland, the American people haven't lost our minds. Just "Putin's poodle" -- as the European press calls him -- at its helm.
Today, we heard your voices. Across Denmark and Greenland, thousands filled the streets in what one protester called "an unseen level of resentment towards the U.S." In Copenhagen, over 15,000 people marched from City Hall to the U.S. Embassy, waving Danish and Greenlandic flags, wearing red "Make America Go Away" caps, and chanting "Kalaallit Nunaat" -- Greenland's name in its own language. In Nuuk, roughly 5,000 turned out -- nearly 10% of the island's entire population -- holding signs reading "Yankee go home" and "Greenland is not for sale."
The message was unified and unmistakable: we are not for sale, we will not be taken, and we will decide our own future.
For weeks, Trump has been escalating his rhetoric about seizing Greenland, going so far as to openly threaten military action against our NATO allies. Today, he continued his role as bully-in-chief, slapping 10% tariffs on eight of America's closest allies until Denmark agrees to sell Greenland. The tariffs jump to 25% in June. The move provoked immediate fury. French President Emmanuel Macron declared that "no intimidation nor threat will influence us." Sweden's prime minister said flatly: "We will not let ourselves be blackmailed."
Trump's obsession with Greenland has even driven Republicans -- who have spent much of the year in silent lockstep with the president -- to finally speak out. Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) wrote on social media that the tariffs were "bad for America, bad for American businesses, and bad for America's allies. It's great for Putin, Xi and other adversaries who want to see NATO divided." He called the push to seize an ally's territory "beyond stupid."
Representative Don Bacon (R-NE) went further, calling it "utter buffoonery" and likening it to something Russia would do. "You don't treat allies that way," Bacon said. "You do that with Russia or China, Iran -- but don't treat your best friends like a piece of [excrement]." Bacon warned that if Trump actually invaded Greenland, "it would be the end of his presidency. Most Republicans know this is immoral and wrong. I will stand up against it."
Former Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell warned from the Senate floor that seizing Greenland would "incinerate" the NATO alliance and called it "an unprecedented act of strategic self-harm."
So what's behind this? With 86% of Americans opposing military action against Greenland according to a new poll released this week, Congress broadly opposed, our closest allies outraged, and the entire enterprise threatening to shatter Western security cooperation -- why is Trump so obsessed?
The Trump administration's stated reason is "national security." But as Tillis pointed out, that argument collapses under scrutiny. "At one point we had 17 military installations in Greenland and they'd be happy to have us back," he said from the Senate floor. "They're not refusing to have us have access to project power into the Arctic. We can do it without taking over a NATO country." You don't have to own territory to have bases there -- we don't own South Korea, Japan, or Germany, but we have massive military presences in all of them. The logic is, as Tillis put it, "silly on stilts."
So what's really driving this? With Trump, it's often impossible to untangle the delusions of grandeur -- a desire to go down in history as some sort of imperialist conqueror -- from the opportunities for grift. But we do know this: according to former National Security Advisor John Bolton, the man who first put the idea of "buying Greenland" into Trump's head was his longtime friend, billionaire Ronald Lauder, the heir to the Estée Lauder cosmetics fortune. And as Trump has ramped up his threats, Lauder has quietly been acquiring commercial holdings in Greenland, including stakes in companies pursuing water exports and mineral extraction.
Like so much of Trump's behavior, logic, coherency, and ethical considerations play no discernible role. What we're left with is a president threatening to blow up a 75-year alliance for reasons that benefit his billionaire friends, destabilize Western security, and -- as multiple critics have noted -- hand a massive win to Vladimir Putin.
Fundamentally, it's up to Americans and our representatives in Congress to restrain Trump's erratic impulses, to stand up for the sovereignty of our allies, and to recognize that mutual respect matters.
For a year, Trump and his advisors have tried to pull the U.S. out of the global community -- withdrawing from international agreements and 66 global institutions, slashing 86% of foreign aid that long served as an inexpensive way to build global soft power, creating a void that China and Russia have rushed to fill.
We're weaker for it, and less respected as a nation than at any point in modern history.
Trump's impulsivity, his delusions of grandeur, his malignant narcissism -- it's been poisoning our own politics for over a decade. Now it's poisoning our relationships with the countries that have stood by us through two World Wars, the Cold War, and the War on Terror.
This week, Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen and Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt traveled to Washington for talks at the White House with JD Vance. Ever Trump's toady, Vance has been harshly critical of Denmark, accusing Copenhagen of "neglect and inaction" and declaring: "You have not done a good job by the people of Greenland." He dismissed European criticism as "bellyaching" and, ironically, characterized Danish pushback as "bullying" -- this from an administration threatening military force against an ally.
Vance's comments elicited outrage across Europe. Denmark's Foreign Minister responded: "We do not appreciate the tone in which this is being delivered. This is not how you speak to close allies." Former Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt called it "a little bit insulting, to be honest, that we have stood side by side with America for decades."
After their meeting this week, Motzfeldt admitted that "the last days have been tough. Our preparations and the increasing pressure that has been intense. But I want to say, we are strong in the government. The work is to ensure the Greenlandic people in our country can feel safe and live securely. We are using all our strength to achieve this as we continue the work."
Becoming visibly emotional, she continued: "We have been working very hard in our department, even though there are not many of us," her voice breaking. "I would not normally like to say these words, but I will say them: We are very strong. We are doing our utmost. But the last days, naturally... I am getting very emotional. I am overwhelmed." She added that the pressure from the United States had "only gotten stronger."
To Vivian Motzfeldt, to the people of Greenland, to our Danish friends: You should not have to be strong against us.
For 76 years, you have been our partners, our allies, our friends. You fought beside us. You trusted us. And now you are being bullied by the very country that was supposed to have your back. We are sorry.
The American people see what is happening, and overwhelmingly reject it. Trump does not speak for us. He never did. We stand with you.
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To Americans: Now is the time to call on your elected officials to block Trump's imperialistic folly and defend our alliances -- there is an action alert on 5 Calls at https://5calls.org/issue/trump-greenlan ... -invasion/
For powerful books for tweens and teens about girls living in real-life oppressive societies throughout history where leaders didn't respect the rule of law, visit our blog post "The Fragility of Freedom: Mighty Girl Books About Life Under Authoritarianism" at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=32426
To introduce kids to inspiring female leaders from around the world, we recommend the picture book "Shaking Things Up: 14 Young Women Who Changed the World" (https://www.amightygirl.com/shaking-things-up) and the illustrated biography "HerStory: 50 Women and Girls Who Shook the World" for ages 8 to 13 (https://www.amightygirl.com/herstory)
For children's books about more extraordinary women from around the world, visit our blog post "50 Children's Books About Mighty Girls & Women Around The World" at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=33102
To inspire children and teens with the true stories of girls and women who dared to fight for change throughout history, check out our blog post, "Dissent Is Patriotic: 50 Books About Women Who Fought for Change," at https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=14364
To read more about Trump's actions against Denmark and Greenland, visit https://www.nytimes.com/.../trump-eu-tariffs-greenland...
To read more about how Ronald Lauder encouraged Trump's imperial ambitions, visit
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Trump bullies 6 European countries with new tariffs because they are supporting Greenland
https://apnews.com/article/denmark-gree ... 4961feda55
https://apnews.com/article/denmark-gree ... 4961feda55
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Oh, now I get it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -greenland
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -greenland
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I love, love, love this video. It has been sent to many friends.
Also, Lawrence O'Donnell has pointed out that Greenland is a distraction from what is really taking place. The ACA subsidies and how many people have already lost their health insurance. He says, don't pay attention to the Greenland debacle. That's what the admin. wants.
Although... if the US does something really foolish, like trying to buy Greenland for billions of $ that could help the American people. Greenland has said it is not for sale. Or military action? We are already set up there and can function already.
Also, Lawrence O'Donnell has pointed out that Greenland is a distraction from what is really taking place. The ACA subsidies and how many people have already lost their health insurance. He says, don't pay attention to the Greenland debacle. That's what the admin. wants.
Although... if the US does something really foolish, like trying to buy Greenland for billions of $ that could help the American people. Greenland has said it is not for sale. Or military action? We are already set up there and can function already.
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“We’re liable to wake up one morning, and Donald, if he were president, would have nuked Denmark.” — Ted Cruz, 2016
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Great youtube - the Greenland Defense Front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0wFiWpU4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0wFiWpU4U
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Iran has closed its airspace. American citizens are being evac'd from Qatar, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden and Canada are sending troops to Greenland and now Macron adds France's solidarity
"BREAKING: French President Emanuel Macron throws down the gauntlet to Trump and announces that his nation's military will join joint exercises in Greenland alongside Denmark and other allies.
All of Europe is rising up against MAGA now...
"At the request of Denmark, I have decided that France will participate in the joint exercises organized by Denmark in Greenland, Operation Arctic Endurance. The first French military elements are already on their way. Others will follow," Macron wrote on X.
"We do not underestimate statements on Greenland," Macron stated elsewhere. "If the sovereignty of a European country and ally were to be affected, the knock-on effects would be unprecedented. France is monitoring the situation very closely and will act in full solidarity with Denmark and its sovereignty."
Earlier today, Germany also announced that they will be sending troops to Greenland as part of a reconnaissance mission with other European nations as Trump escalates his saber-rattling rhetoric towards the Arctic island. The joint European mission was requested especially by Denmark, of which Greenland is an autonomous territory.
"The aim is to explore the framework conditions for possible military contributions to support Denmark in ensuring security in the region," stated the German Defense Ministry.
“Security in the Arctic is of crucial importance to the Kingdom and our Arctic allies, and it is therefore important that we, in close cooperation with allies, further strengthen our ability to operate in the region,” stated Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen.
“The Danish Defense Forces, together with several Arctic and European allies, will explore in the coming weeks how an increased presence and exercise activity in the Arctic can be implemented," he added.
Denmark will also be deploying additional aircraft, naval assets, and ground troops in and around Greenland as part of the increased training and exercises.
It cannot be overstated what a horrifying state of affairs America now finds itself in. Our closest allies are now preparing to repel a possible invasion of a NATO member all because Trump fancies himself a conqueror. His imperialist dreams are those of a child with no real understanding of the world. The U.S. doesn't need to seize Greenland because there is already no limit to the amount of military assets we are permitted to station there. This is about grandstanding. Trump is desperate to carve out a legacy as his domestic policies implode.
As for the MAGA supporters who are mindlessly braying in support of Trump's aggression, bragging that the United States would win if it came to war with Europe, they are completely missing the point. With an increasingly expansionist Russia and an ascendent China, America needs its European allies now more than ever. Regardless of how this Greenland debacle resolves, Trump has permanently damaged our most crucial alliances.
"BREAKING: French President Emanuel Macron throws down the gauntlet to Trump and announces that his nation's military will join joint exercises in Greenland alongside Denmark and other allies.
All of Europe is rising up against MAGA now...
"At the request of Denmark, I have decided that France will participate in the joint exercises organized by Denmark in Greenland, Operation Arctic Endurance. The first French military elements are already on their way. Others will follow," Macron wrote on X.
"We do not underestimate statements on Greenland," Macron stated elsewhere. "If the sovereignty of a European country and ally were to be affected, the knock-on effects would be unprecedented. France is monitoring the situation very closely and will act in full solidarity with Denmark and its sovereignty."
Earlier today, Germany also announced that they will be sending troops to Greenland as part of a reconnaissance mission with other European nations as Trump escalates his saber-rattling rhetoric towards the Arctic island. The joint European mission was requested especially by Denmark, of which Greenland is an autonomous territory.
"The aim is to explore the framework conditions for possible military contributions to support Denmark in ensuring security in the region," stated the German Defense Ministry.
“Security in the Arctic is of crucial importance to the Kingdom and our Arctic allies, and it is therefore important that we, in close cooperation with allies, further strengthen our ability to operate in the region,” stated Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen.
“The Danish Defense Forces, together with several Arctic and European allies, will explore in the coming weeks how an increased presence and exercise activity in the Arctic can be implemented," he added.
Denmark will also be deploying additional aircraft, naval assets, and ground troops in and around Greenland as part of the increased training and exercises.
It cannot be overstated what a horrifying state of affairs America now finds itself in. Our closest allies are now preparing to repel a possible invasion of a NATO member all because Trump fancies himself a conqueror. His imperialist dreams are those of a child with no real understanding of the world. The U.S. doesn't need to seize Greenland because there is already no limit to the amount of military assets we are permitted to station there. This is about grandstanding. Trump is desperate to carve out a legacy as his domestic policies implode.
As for the MAGA supporters who are mindlessly braying in support of Trump's aggression, bragging that the United States would win if it came to war with Europe, they are completely missing the point. With an increasingly expansionist Russia and an ascendent China, America needs its European allies now more than ever. Regardless of how this Greenland debacle resolves, Trump has permanently damaged our most crucial alliances.
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Crimea is Ukrainian. Greenland is Danish. Venezuela is Venezuelan, and Trump is an idiot.
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Thought T wanted to abandon NATO. Paying islanders $100,000 each? MAGA needs to wake up. This is how they are being treated. No money for them.
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UK planning to send troops to Greenland:
https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk ... 98311.html
US planning to send troops to Greenland:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/15763777/t ... nd-maduro/
This is a war we will certainly lose. And those eighty thousand servicemembers in NATO countries will all be prisoners of war.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk ... 98311.html
US planning to send troops to Greenland:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/15763777/t ... nd-maduro/
This is a war we will certainly lose. And those eighty thousand servicemembers in NATO countries will all be prisoners of war.
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""6-7" (pronounced "six seven") is a popular internet slang term and meme, especially among Generation Alpha, that is largely nonsensical and has no fixed meaning. The point of the expression is its very absurdity, which makes it an inside joke that helps young people signal group belonging and confuse older generations."
You are nonsensical and have no fixed meaning
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You really look stupid (and old!) when you consistently use a youthful reference incorrectly! You get em boomer.
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More pitchfork rallying, you idiots will never stop until all the morons on your side have sacrificed their lives for your so called 'cause'! Such ridiculous, disgusting imbeciles you are.
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I wouldn't be surprised if nearly all senior officers resigned if we committed to military operations against Greenland or Canada.
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Great by Jim Wright.
Ah, but other nations tremble when the US wants something. Maybe not so this time? Questions at the end-who does benefit? Not the everyday, US citizen, working their behinds off. On the backs of...
When will the pitchforks come out?
In an interivew, on a Fox channel, T said he was going to bomb Mexico, where the cartels are. Those guys are probalby moving around all the time. You know they have a grapevine and connections in the US. The cartels are indeed bad. But bombing Mexico, trying to pin point where they are?
But the accerlerationists want all that the questions ask to happen. The plan.
And where is Jonathan Ross? Our own gov't may take him out because he is now a liability. Someone else comes to mind with the initials JE.
Ah, but other nations tremble when the US wants something. Maybe not so this time? Questions at the end-who does benefit? Not the everyday, US citizen, working their behinds off. On the backs of...
When will the pitchforks come out?
In an interivew, on a Fox channel, T said he was going to bomb Mexico, where the cartels are. Those guys are probalby moving around all the time. You know they have a grapevine and connections in the US. The cartels are indeed bad. But bombing Mexico, trying to pin point where they are?
But the accerlerationists want all that the questions ask to happen. The plan.
And where is Jonathan Ross? Our own gov't may take him out because he is now a liability. Someone else comes to mind with the initials JE.
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Jim Wright:
"“If you take it [Greenland], we take every single base of the Americans from Aviano to Ramstein, from Romania, to all the other military bases will be confiscated, and you will lose it, and the whole position of American power since World War II, if you take Greenland, you have to leave,”
-- Gunther Fehlinger, Austria's NATO committee chair
Any attempt to take Greenland (and there's no guarantee we could actually take and hold it, especially against an alliance of multiple nations) would result in a complete loss of EVERY OTHER EUROPEAN BASE. We have over 80 years of investment in those facilities, trillions upon trillions of dollar. We'd lose access to every runway and port in Europe. Nearly every US OPLAN is built around use of those facilities from logistics to repair to communications to command and control to intelligence to weather prediction to fueling to reaction time to power projection.
Hell, US military planning for defending GREENLAND depends in large part on NATO assets and access to European bases and resources.
We might even, and it's increasingly likely that we would, lose access Canadian facilities, assets, airspace, and waters. You could potentially be looking at a collapse of NORAD.
Loss of those facilities, loss of those allies and alliances, would be a catastrophic disruption of military planning and a monumental reduction of US capability to project global military and political power. The North Sea, the Arctic, the Baltic, the Mediterranean, North Africa, the Black Sea, the Suez Canal, the impact and second order effects can't even be measured at the moment.
That's what Trump is risking for Greenland -- a landmass we ALREADY have military access to. A landmass that American companies can already invest in for resource harvesting -- just as they can enter into business arrangements with any other nation for oil, mining, and etc.
Who benefits?
No, really, that's not rhetorical. WHO does it benefit?
When Trump destroys NATO, who benefits?
When Trump convinces Americans to refuse vaccination and America is increasingly vulnerable to disease, who benefits?
When Trump declares Americans themselves as enemies, as terrorists, as unamerican, and turns violent force on the citizens, who benefits?
When Trump imposes tariffs, destroys trade, crashes the economy, and drives up unemployment, who benefits?
When Trump incites civil war, when Trump attacks US states, when Trump divides us, who really benefits?
Who benefits.
Answer that question and you know who Trump really works for -- whether HE knows or not."
"“If you take it [Greenland], we take every single base of the Americans from Aviano to Ramstein, from Romania, to all the other military bases will be confiscated, and you will lose it, and the whole position of American power since World War II, if you take Greenland, you have to leave,”
-- Gunther Fehlinger, Austria's NATO committee chair
Any attempt to take Greenland (and there's no guarantee we could actually take and hold it, especially against an alliance of multiple nations) would result in a complete loss of EVERY OTHER EUROPEAN BASE. We have over 80 years of investment in those facilities, trillions upon trillions of dollar. We'd lose access to every runway and port in Europe. Nearly every US OPLAN is built around use of those facilities from logistics to repair to communications to command and control to intelligence to weather prediction to fueling to reaction time to power projection.
Hell, US military planning for defending GREENLAND depends in large part on NATO assets and access to European bases and resources.
We might even, and it's increasingly likely that we would, lose access Canadian facilities, assets, airspace, and waters. You could potentially be looking at a collapse of NORAD.
Loss of those facilities, loss of those allies and alliances, would be a catastrophic disruption of military planning and a monumental reduction of US capability to project global military and political power. The North Sea, the Arctic, the Baltic, the Mediterranean, North Africa, the Black Sea, the Suez Canal, the impact and second order effects can't even be measured at the moment.
That's what Trump is risking for Greenland -- a landmass we ALREADY have military access to. A landmass that American companies can already invest in for resource harvesting -- just as they can enter into business arrangements with any other nation for oil, mining, and etc.
Who benefits?
No, really, that's not rhetorical. WHO does it benefit?
When Trump destroys NATO, who benefits?
When Trump convinces Americans to refuse vaccination and America is increasingly vulnerable to disease, who benefits?
When Trump declares Americans themselves as enemies, as terrorists, as unamerican, and turns violent force on the citizens, who benefits?
When Trump imposes tariffs, destroys trade, crashes the economy, and drives up unemployment, who benefits?
When Trump incites civil war, when Trump attacks US states, when Trump divides us, who really benefits?
Who benefits.
Answer that question and you know who Trump really works for -- whether HE knows or not."
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