You can purify your home. It matters

[mister_coffee]

So how is 20_000 plants more realistic to build than 37_000? And if you need to build that many factories to do so is it really a realistic solution?

Even assuming 20_000 plants, you'd have to build more than 2 a day to have them all up and running by 2050. Which seems optimistic when we only are talking about a proposed plant that we don't even know is technically or economically feasible to build, or even if it will work as well as they think it will.

[Fun CH]

... The Texas firm is currently working with the DAC company Carbon Engineering Ltd. to build Stratos, a megaplant that would remove up to 1 million metric tons of CO2 per year, with the first phase scheduled for completion in 2025. The world’s largest DAC plant in operation today is only capable of removing 4,000 tons per year."

Great, we only need to order about 37000 of those plants to offset the 37 billion tons of CO2 we dump into the atmosphere each year. But no, because we'd like to drop the CO2 level a bit to give our civilization a chance to survive, we'd need even more of them.

Your numbers are off as usual, from the web.

"Globally, scientists predict that up to 10 GtCO2 will need to be removed annually from the atmosphere by 2050, with increased removal capacity up to 20 GtCO2 per year by 2100."

At least the oil companies are starting to do something to remove atmospheric carbon, but who and what is the real problem?

[mister_coffee]

... The Texas firm is currently working with the DAC company Carbon Engineering Ltd. to build Stratos, a megaplant that would remove up to 1 million metric tons of CO2 per year, with the first phase scheduled for completion in 2025. The world’s largest DAC plant in operation today is only capable of removing 4,000 tons per year."

Great, we only need to order about 37000 of those plants to offset the 37 billion tons of CO2 we dump into the atmosphere each year. But no, because we'd like to drop the CO2 level a bit to give our civilization a chance to survive, we'd need even more of them.

[Fun CH]

Some oil companies are heading towards net zero emissions with investments into carbon capture. EVs still use fossil fuels in the mining of raw materials, the manufacturing process, tires and electricity produced from fossil fuel sources.



https://www.eenews.net/articles/oil-com ... r-dollars/

"Occidental has made a billion-dollar bet on DAC. The Texas firm is currently working with the DAC company Carbon Engineering Ltd. to build Stratos, a megaplant that would remove up to 1 million metric tons of CO2 per year, with the first phase scheduled for completion in 2025. The world’s largest DAC plant in operation today is only capable of removing 4,000 tons per year."

[PAL]

Ok, great, will look her up.
We do need to get off of fossil fuels. But, always the but. We see how goods are transported, trucks, trains, planes. This will take a long time, maybe to much time to get it together. The book I keep touting, "Fireweather" talks about how in about 1887 they started researching the effects of fossils fuels. Jump to 1957, they knew then and predicted it could affect our atmosphere. The '70's, nobody listened, because we/they didn't want to and still don't.
Crummy thought, but maybe there will be societal collapse before fossil fuels kill us, then it's back to tribal and agrarian societies. This is not something I'm dreaming about how great it would be to go back to those times. There would be a big die off. Dystopian and pretty negative thinking but these thoughts occur to me from time to time.
But again, I will see what she has to say.

[Rideback]

Hers was a specific conversation about appliances. If you want to see her responses about flying and other fossil fuel impacts she has written extensively about their impact so you can readily find them. What the author is well known for is not just her expertise but her abilities to offer up solutions.

Everything is on the table now for solutions as well as mitigation. There is no silver bullet, no magic one size fits all, so every bit counts which means not waiting for 'government' to address the largest issues first.

https://www.ted.com/talks/katharine_hay ... anguage=en

[PAL]

I'm glad they post solutions for people that can't run out and buy an electric stove. We have gas and always use our exhaust fan.
But here is what bugs me:
"Another Stanford study found that those leaks — from 40 million gas stoves across the U.S. — have a climate impact comparable to adding half a million gas-powered cars to the roads."

When talking about climate impact, what about all the jets that fly all day, every day of the year? We are told we have to stop using fossil fuels and the dialogue seems to stop there.
Not much in the way of hard, fast, solutions. Only for individuals to use EV's, drive less. They don't address all the other fossil fuel users much.
Well, we've gotta fly, go on our trips to other countries, etc.

[Rideback]

https://mailchi.mp/c8bd2387bb21/talking ... d283e661d6