This is a tape that the Detroit News has reviewed that was made in Nov 2020 after the election. On it both Trump and RNC chairwoman are talking with electors and telling them that they'll get them lawyers, just don't certify the election.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 004514007/
This tape is every bit as bad as the GA tape that Trump is now faced with as part of Georgia's RICO case
Trump caught on tape
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