When does life begin

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“Feeling pain” is in no way the sole arbiter of what may be killed! As was pointed out earlier, a tiny fraction of abortions are due to the mother’s life being in jeopardy. Religion or not, killing humans for convenience is abhorrent.
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Fact checking abortion myths, including fetuses feel pain

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/10966761 ... ct-checked

'State legislatures have been moving to adopt 20-week abortion bans, with abortion opponents claiming fetuses can feel pain at that point. Roughly a third of states have implemented an abortion ban around 20 weeks.

But this contradicts widely accepted medical research from 2005. This study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, concluded that a fetus is not capable of experiencing pain until somewhere between 29 or 30 weeks.

Researchers wrote that fetal awareness of pain requires "functional thalamocortical connections." Those thalamocortical fibers begin appearing between 23 and 30 weeks' gestational age, but the capacity for pain perception comes later.'
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Keep in mind that late term abortions are not a cavalier decision in most cases, as has been pointed out and in numerous articles. Many women, who are at that late a term usually want the baby. But then cirmumstances arrive where the mother's health and life is at stake or other conditions where the baby is not viable. In that situation nobody wins. Let the mother and baby both die? For those that say no exceptions. They are wrong.
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Babies start to 'kick' in the womb at 16-25 weeks.
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These arguments are so twisted especially coming from ‘intellectual’ thought. So if we have delivered pain eliminaters (like morphine) to a patient we can then kill them if they’re inconvenient because they won’t feel any pain? Makes absolutely no sense. Any mother who describes the feeling of their child thrashing around in her womb and the incredible interaction she can have will assure you that that is an alive being and has so called ‘feelings’, that’s the expert I believe!
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I'll let the professionals debunk your misguided premise. https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonli ... in_.3.aspx

But 2nd, it's important to recognize that the article is about how the Jewish religion perceives the 'building of a child' and the actual moment when that child becomes human enough to receive a soul. That's elemental to their beliefs and their beliefs are important to this journey.
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When you see a child recoil from the abortionists tools coming to kill it en utero you KNOW life starts prior to the head presentation!
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