ICE Agents shoot US Citizen in the street

[mister_coffee]

The shooter's own video has been leaked.
https://www.politicususa.com/p/leaked-i ... irect=true

There are some issues with that video. Most importantly the fact that only one shot can be heard on it while all others you can clearly hear three shots. Some are saying parts of the video have been edited.

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The shooter's own video has been leaked.
https://www.politicususa.com/p/leaked-i ... irect=true

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvPbWcLSLrM

[mister_coffee]

From a legal standpoint ICE has very limited jurisdiction over US Citizens.

I'd argue that Job One for local law enforcement is to protect the first amendment rights of peaceful and orderly protesters. And at the same time keep them physically safe from harm.

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They are spending more time attacking protesters, than going after the criminal immigrants. Shouldn't the local police try to control protesters and not ICE?

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Judge J. Michael Luttig Substack

"“The lesson didn’t end with Good’s killing — the administration had to smear her afterward. As The New York Times reported, bystander footage filmed from several different angles shows that the agent who shot Good wasn’t in the path of her S.U.V. when he fired on her. That did not stop Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem from accusing Good of trying to run agents over in “an act of domestic terrorism.” Vice President JD Vance called her a “deranged leftist.”

In the imagination of some on the right, Good quickly came to stand in for all the grating Resistance moms they’d like to see crushed. Fox News sneered that Good was a “self-proclaimed poet” — she’s the winner of a prestigious poetry award — “with pronouns in her bio.” The conservative radio host Erick Erickson described her as an “AWFUL,” or “Affluent White Female Urban Liberal.”

It’s entirely possible that had Good lived, the Trump administration might have tried to prosecute her. That’s essentially what happened to Marimar Martinez, a U.S. citizen in Chicago, in October. Martinez was in her car trying to warn people about ICE when she collided with a Border Patrol vehicle. Federal officials claimed she “rammed” a car driven by the agent Charles Exum, while her lawyers say he sideswiped her. Exum then got out of his car and shot her five times.

Martinez survived, only for the Justice Department to charge her with assaulting a federal officer. Her lawyers soon discovered that Exum had been boasting about the shooting in text messages. In one, he wrote, “I fired 5 rounds, and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.” In another, he said, “Sweet. My fifteen mins of fame. Lmao.” The Justice Department ended up dropping the case before even more messages could be revealed.

Exum’s giddy sadism shouldn’t have been surprising; it reflects the culture the administration is encouraging among its immigration enforcers. In one ICE recruiting ad, an agent mans a mounted gun atop some sort of militarized vehicle, with the words, “Destroy the flood.” It was a reference to the video game Halo, where players must kill a flood of hostile space aliens. Another shows sword-wielding knights with the words, “The enemies are at the gates.”

Homeland Security’s social media feed is an unending stream of demented propaganda and bellicose Christian nationalism. An image posted on New Year’s Eve shows a classic car on an idyllic beach with the slogan, “America after 100 million deportations.” Homeland Security has added the words, “The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world.” One hundred million, it’s important to note, is almost twice America’s entire immigrant population. They are telegraphing the creation of a far-reaching police state.

In such a system, the relationship between every citizen and their government is transformed by the constant demand for submission. Since Good’s death, Republicans have been lining up to threaten those who don’t immediately comply with ICE’s orders. “The bottom line is this: When a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them and then you get to keep your life,” Representative Wesley Hunt of Texas said on Newsmax.

All of us, citizens and immigrants alike, are being ruled by people who think life is a privilege bestowed by authority, and death is a fair penalty for disobedience.”

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The videos capture the shooter walking away from the vehicle, he wasn't hit. He was harmed in June when he got his arm stuck in a car when it pulled away to flee.

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[mister_coffee]

Bullets went into the vehicle from someone shooting from the side of the vehicle (a Honda Pilot going about 6mph) so there can't be a serious argument that anyone was in danger of being run over.

So any argument about an officer's life being in danger from a Honda Pilot going 6mph are just crap.

This whole action went against both federal policy about suspects in fleeing vehicles and what you do about them and officer training.

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"Here are some things happening in Minneapolis which you won't read about in the news:
- churches, schools, and legions of volunteers are funding and organizing drives to purchase and deliver food to immigrant families too fearful to leave their homes.
- volunteers are posting at schools to watch for ICE especially when kids are released.
- because Minneapolis schools are closed today and tomorrow out of fear for the safety of students and staff, neighbors are offering free day care, snacks, games and supplies to assist families.
- immigrant businesses are keeping their doors locked and only admitting people on an individual basis, but people are patronizing these businesses to support them. Businesses closed yesterday out of respect for the killing of Renee Good.
- neighbors are distributing free alert whistles and literature to one another in case of ICE sightings.
- thousands of people are taking "upstander" trainings to better support people attacked by ICE.
- nonprofits are mobilizing to protect communities, and donors are stepping up to invest in these efforts.
- we are checking in on one another.
Minnesotans are not rolling over in fear. We are acting from a place of being caring, protective, and just humans. We are doing what we can to forge on despite this attack on our community. This is what fighting for right looks like." NC

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[dorankj]

Ashley Babbit DIDN'T have a weapon mor*n! A 4000# vehicle is.

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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19fQwLxf61/ She was a mother not a terrorist threat

[mister_coffee]

Two additional shootings in Portland, OR this afternoon...

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[mister_coffee]

Please explain to me why killing Ashley Babbit was wrong and killing Renee Nicole Good was okay? I suspect it takes years of indoctrination and brainwashing to come to that conclusion.

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[dorankj]

Ashley Babbit, oh that's right wrong politics! Despicable hypocrites.

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[mister_coffee]

I kind of hope the do try to declare Martial Law and invoke the Insurrection Act. Largely because it would be a total joke and a sh**show and demonstrate the utter futility of ruling America by force.

There are too many streets and not enough tanks.

The least stupid way to go about it would be to show overwhelming force in a select few locations along with a lot of very effective PR. The problem with that is whereever they were would end up more or less sullenly peaceful while anyplace they weren't would be burnt to the ground. And they quickly would be forced into a 100 percent reactive mode and would cede the initiative to the opposition.

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If Trump goes nuclear and invokes the insurrection act then he loses his leverage. Suppose we had "martial law" Who is going to obey any federal officer? At that point it will be a matter of if and when army officers tell soldiers to disobey "illegal" orders. Are soldiers going to start shooting their civilian neighbors? Or is Trump going to find himself powerless at that point? It looks more and more like that's where we're going.

[mister_coffee]

ICE officers are also instructed that firing at a vehicle will not make it stop moving in the direction of the officer.

My head just exploded.

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Feds are denying access to records for the Minnesota state investigators
https://apnews.com/live/minneapolis-ice ... dium=share

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Video analysis
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000 ... d=fb-share

it adds fleeing the scene of the crime to the event

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